Notes: web2expo - Wednesday

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Licensing User-Generated Content – Fred von Lohmann

  • red flag knowledge VS waiting for take down notices

  • Points out YouTube has no ads on video pages because don’t want to be seen benefitting from illegal content

  • flickr become a great stock photo point

  • talk to your lawyer now, not later!

Immersive Experiences: Lessons from Game Designersareae.netraphkoster.com

Audio of his talk here

  • unpredictable/unknown policies makes people behave

  • suggests reading ‘influence’ – I’m not sure who by.

  • have myths that people can hang on to

  • iterative tit for tat

  • anything you publicize, you will get copy cats – humans are lemmings.. even subconsciously

  • don’t make something perfect.. People like to feel smart to find things wrong and tell you or

Designing for web2.0lukew.comblog

Slides to his talk here

  • Eye tracking – etre

  • Ways of interaction: locomotion, conversation and manipulation

  • Meaningful shouting – make messages stand out where they make sense.

  • Might be cheap to get a web app done and hosted, but marketing it to a point where you want to succeed isn’t.

  • yahoo in-context step by step guide – nice!

  • Make the ‘unpacking experience’ great. Don’t wack them with a form before they can even do anything. Let them become part of the expereince right away. Jump cut was given as a good example.

  • Incontext editing = good.

  • Bill scott has compiled a lot of interaction methods

  • Sites are going away from highly hierarchal to ‘content objects’.

  • It’s a ‘search world’ – high % of people get to content via a search engine

  • chicago tribune = lots of site overhead – new york times = concentrates on the content

  • Renkoo.com – invite system – Strong ‘call to action’ when you recieve an invite

  • plaxo.com – Addressbook system

  • Sharp focus on what your site does – cut the clutter –

  • myspace and craigslist – ‘usefully ugly’

  • mike industries manages to make a nice myspace page – but had to jump through a lot of hoops

  • table table table = LOL

  • “Most user generated content is crappy. As we create better tools, we’ll increase the value of the output of those tools” – Will Wright (sims, spore)

  • make it easier to do a good thing than it is a bad thing.

  • accept that if you are creating a tool that people are going to use to express themselves, the results may not always be attractive.

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The Social Media Revolution: You Oughta Be in Pictures – Jeremiah Owyang, Thomas Hawk, Chris Pirillo, Robert Scoble

  • Total live media (twitter, IRC, video stream) geek fest.

  • Chris and scoble streaming to ustream.tv

  • Not many people who are at web2expo went to SXSW - interesting.

  • Most people don’t click the ‘next’ button on a search page.

  • WTF…. “Social Communities”?

  • want a good hotel recommendation, google for “stayed at {hotel name}”

  • Search for “{company name} sucks”

web2open wrap up meeting
(web2open was a open barcamp style conference within the web2expo)

  • Had a brainstorm session to come up with thoughts on how the web2open went

  • Lots of ideas came up

  • It was a success!

  • Personally wish I’d gotten to more web2open sessions.. Hard to split time between the 2.

  • I hope more of what happened gets wiki’ized – who spoke and results of sessions for example.

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